Pub Partitions

1923 - Architectural drawings of the original Red Lion pub on Church St. It was rebuilt in 1924 when Lordhship Road was widened. Note the different areas the pub was split to: Saloon, private bar, public bar. (Source: London Metropolitan Archives. Ref:GLC/AR/DS/06/156).

Two of the four original entrances to the Rose & Crown on Church St still have the signage, which marked two of the four separate sections of the interior: Private Bar, Public Bar, Saloon Bar and Lounge Dining Room.

Just noticed that the five doors of the Rose & Crown, which used to lead to separate areas are numbered from the inside: 1 - Private Bar (Number is missing) 2 - Public Bar (Number is missing) 3 - Outdoor Dept. 4 - Saloon Bar 5 - Lounge & Dining Room Any ideas why?

The former entrance to the Luncheon Bar, the Shakespeare pub, 57 Allen Road, Stoke Newington. A remnant of a time pubs were divided to different sections, each with its own separate entrance such as public bar, private bar and saloon bar.

“The traditional pub is essentially a multi-room establishment and one which involves a hierarchy of rooms.” From ‘The vanishing faces of the traditional pub’ breweryhistory.com/journal/archive/123/Pu… Stoke Newington pubs like the Rose & Crown still have the old signs outside such as Private…

1927 Plan of the Three Crowns pub (175 SN High Street), showing how it was originally divided into separate rooms with separate entrances. The Public Bar was slightly cheaper, standing only and served predominately men compared to the Private Bar and Saloon Lounge.

Plan of the original Red Lion pub on Church St (Note pre-1937 number), showing how it was divided into separate rooms with separate entrances. The Public Bar was slightly cheaper, standing only and served predominately men compared to the Private Bar and Saloon. Rebuilt in 1924.

@soxgnasher Interesting to see that a second entrance to a operate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right was removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was different, possibly oval and in the middle. Never considered it ti…

Then & Now: The Coach and Horses. Interesting to see a second entrance to a separate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right. Removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was possibly different, maybe oval and in the middl…

You can just about spot where the Shakespeare pub’s Luncheon Bar section partition would have been, when the pub was divided into separate areas (Saloon Bar, Public Bar and Luncheon Bar). Most likely frosted glass with staff working along the bar serving the different sections.

Apart from the frosted glass, the partition of the Shakespeare pub’s Saloon Bar section is pretty much still there.

The former entrance to the Rose & Crown’s “Outdoor Department” (note sign above the door), the pub’s ‘off licence’ section. It was originally a narrow corridor, leading to the bar allowing people to fill jugs or buy bottles to take home.

The Shakespeare pub in Allen Road/Shakspeare Walk (built 1858) in the early 1970s. Note the partition on the left when pubs were split into separate sections (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Lounge). The wooden frame of that partition is still there today.

The Coach & Horses pub, 178 Stoke Newington High Street. Note that it originally had two entrances, as pubs were divided into different sections, not too dissimilar from modern gastro pubs: Public Bar on the left and Private Bar on the right.

@ivan_ruggeri Have a look. The entrance to the private bar was removed. The bar was originally oval and in the middle.

Old Saloon Bar mosaic at one of the entrances of the former Old Pitts Head, 230 Brick Lane. Only 3 Stoke Newington pubs have traces of the age when pubs where clearly divided into separate sections: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar. The 3 Crowns, The Shakespeare, Rose & C…

The Three Crown is one of only three Stoke Newington pubs with surviving signage (Saloon lounge in this case) to what were partitioned areas: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon lounge, Outdoor dept./bottles & jugs. The other two are Rose & Crown and The Shakespeare.

The former entrance to the Rose & Crown’s “Outdoor Department” (note sign above the door), the pub’s ‘off licence’ section. It was originally a narrow corridor, leading to the bar allowing people to fill jugs or buy bottles to take home.

"The pivoted panes of glass were used by husbands or their wives, so that if one was in the Saloon Bar they could not see that their spouse was in another bar” Fascinating memories of growing up in The Shakespeare pub in the early 20th century here: drive.google.com/file/d/1L7FAUR… https…

1977 - The original Victorian interior of the Jolly Butchers, 204 Stoke Newington High St, when it was still divided into sections with separate entrances (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon), all served by a single U-shaped bar (Source: buff.ly/2xgytER) https://t.co/Cap5Ji…

Great details in this photo of the old Red Lion: 1. Pre-1917 ’N’ postal district in the street sign 2. Lamps with the writing ‘Saloon Bar’ indicating it’s the entrance to the ‘posh’ section of the pub. 3. 114 - The old street number before the street was renumbred in 1937

@bobshaw72 This great one shows it with the separate entrances to the partitioned sections (Note the Saloon Bar sign)

Inside a Stokey pub in the 1970s: Roy Barrows kindly sent me these terrific photos from the 70s of the now-gone Howard Arms pub, which was at Howard Rd/Spencer Grove. Such interior photos are rare and fascinating. I love Ray’s comment about the Public Bar and Saloon Bar!

Ideal for social distancing? Pubs were originally divided into separate areas (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon) with partitions and separate marked entrances. Here’s the Jolly Butchers in Stoke Newington High Street in the 70s, when it had its original U-shaped bar in the middle.

The Rose & Crown still has the number of each room, when it was divided. Numbering of individual rooms within a pub was standard practice for Customs & Excise control purposes until the 1960s. 1 Private Bar, 2 Public Bar, 3 Outdoor Dept, 4 Saloon Bar, 5 Lounge & Dini…

The Coach and Horses, 178 Stoke Newington High Street with its two original entrances to the Public Bar and Private Bar rooms. The entrance on the right was removed at some point.

Beautiful Victorian mosaic in the Cellars pub in Newington Green Road, Islington in what was originally the entrance to the billiards and saloon bar room. A relic from an era when pubs were divided into partitioned areas, which had separate entrances (eg Public Bar, Private Bar)

I was chuffed to see the The Lamb & Flag pub in Covent Garden retained its old Public Bar sign. These are rare. Then I was thrilled to see it also had the old Saloon Bar sign! Imagine my reaction when I noticed both signs were made by a Stoke Newington sign maker! (@ghostsig…

The Rose & Crown is one of only three pubs in Stoke Newington with surviving signs to the former partitioned sections of the pub. The Outdoor Department was the off licence and originally a narrow corridor leading to the servery. It’s now the main entrance to the pub.

The Weavers Arms pub opposite Abney Park Cemetery at 2 Stamford Hill/Cazenove Road. The pub closed many years ago and the ground floor has been used as a retail space since. It was an off-licence for a long time and later a second hand furniture shop. Women's clothing store now.

Ad for The Weavers Arms pub opposite Abney Park Cemetery at 2 Stamford Hill/Cazenove Rd. The pub closed many years ago and the ground floor has been a retail space since. It was an off-licence for a long time and later a second hand furniture shop. Women's clothing store now.

The Three Crowns is one of only three Stoke Newington pubs that have surviving signage to what used to be partitioned sections inside. Depending on size, a typical pub usually had a Saloon/Lounge, Private Bar, Public Bar, Off-Licence and Snug. Each with its own entrance and sign.

What’s now the entrance to the Rose & Crown pub, was originally the entrance to the pub’s off licence/Outdoor Dept. area. It was a narrow entrance with partition on each side leading to the bar where drinks could be purchased in bottles or jugs to take away.

This old photo of the Jolly Butchers shows the signs above the entrances to the different partitioned sections of the pub: Private Bar, Public Bar and Saloon Bar. A central U-shaped bar allowed the staff to serve all the sections. The original bar was removed a few years ago.

These great photos of the Jolly Butchers in 1977 show how the interior was divided into the Public Bar, Private Bar and Saloon Bar. Very few pubs in the area have retained their original central U-shaped bar. The Shakespeare is a great example of an original bar and pub layout.…

The Princess Louise pub in Holborn still has the original partitions from when pubs were divided into separate areas (e.g. Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon, Snug). Plans for the Three Crowns (1927) and Rose & Crown (1931) show how these pubs were originally divided into secti…

@jamesevans42 The Saloon Lounge in Three Crowns, entered from Church St. It was the ‘poshest’ section of a pub. Public Bar was working-class mainly with sawdust on the floor, so as far as I understand, the Private Bar was somewhere in the middle in the social hierarchy the inter…

The Snug was a small section of a traditional pub where women could socialise without men. This is original from 1899 in Dick Mack’s in Ireland. Stoke Newington pubs were originally divided into different sections, but I’m not aware of any that had a Snug. Does anyone know?

A great view into what Stoke Newington pubs used to look like inside when they were partitioned: The Boleyn Tavern in E6 restored the pub’s Victorian features including the wooden screens with etched glass that divided the interior into separate sections like a Public Bar.

Pub interior partitions in the Prince Alfred in Maida Vale. Only 3 pubs in Stoke Newington (Rose & Crowns, Three Crowns, The Shakespeare) have some of the original signs at the entrances that used to lead to the sections of the pub, typically Private Bar, Public Bar and Salo…

The Coach & Horses in the 1970s with its original two entrances: Saloon Bar on the left and likely Public Bar on the right. The original serving bar was U-shaped in the middle with a decorative partition separating the two section. The entrance on the right is now a window.

A partition in the John Snow pub in Soho with a small door for pot-boys to collect empty glasses. Every pub in Stoke Newington would have had similar timber and etched glass screens that divided the pub to 3 different rooms usually: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar.

The Kings Arms in Waterloo has historic interior partitions dating back from when pubs were divided into rooms with separate entrances (Public Bar, Public Bar, Saloon Bar usually). Looks original. These would have been a feature of every pub in Stoke Newington back in the day.

The Shakespeare pub 100 years ago. Built in 1858 and still going strong. Jack Lazarus, the publican, and his son Arthur Lazarus (right). The interior photo is of the Saloon Bar section of the pub. (Courtesy of @graisgour, Arthur Lazarus’ granddaughter)

You can see on the counter Snob Screens, which comprised of an etched glass pane in a movable wooden frame and were intended to provide middle class drinkers in the Saloon Bar privacy from the staff and working class drinkers in the Public Bar on the other side of the bar. https…

My current fascination with historic pub interior took me on a 4hr round trip walk to the Prince Alfred in Maida Vale, which has original ornate partitions separating 5 drinking areas from a time when working men drank in the Public Bar and the middle class drank in the Saloon

The Prince Alfred also has surviving ornate Snob-Screens, which were at the luxurious Saloon Bar/Parlour section of a pub and intended to give privacy to the drinkers in that luxurious section of the pub and obscure them from the working class staff and drinkers in the Public Bar

Here’s a section about Snob-Screens in Ben Davis’ 1981 book “The Traditional English Pub”. It’s rare to see them today but they were common in pubs back in the day in the Saloon Bar section. This is the Crown in Islington. No surviving Snob-Screens in Stoke Newington pubs.

Spotted these infills in the bar of the Red Lion, which I suspect mark the spot of the old timber, and possibly etched glass, screens that divided the pub into different drinking areas such as Public Bar and Saloon Bar. Here’s a surviving example in the Prince Alfred, Maida Vale

What’s now the entrance to the Rose & Crown used to be the entrance to a narrow off-licence area of the pub, where people could buy bottles and get a jug filled with beer. “Outdoor Department”, as the off-licence was sometimes named, can still be seen above the door.

Back in the day when pubs were subdivided into drinking areas with separate entrances, some pubs had an off-licence section, sometimes named Outdoor Department, or in the case of this pub in Islington “Bottles & Jugs”. The areas inside were separated using timber screens.

New geeky hobby: Trying to work out how a pub used to be subdivided into partitioned areas, usually Public Bar, Saloon Bar, Off-Licence and Private Bar. Decorative timber screens, sometimes with etched glass, partitioned the interior. This was done in the Red Lion in Church St

Great example of a pub partition in the King’s Head in Tooting Bec. Every Victorian pub in Stoke Newington had 2-3 subdividing the interior into different drinking areas such as Public Bar and Saloon Lounge. A central U-shaped servery allowed the staff to serve them easily.

@HowardKemp Any chance your friend remembers how the pub was originally divided into separate bars? It originally had 5 entrances (one is now a window) so Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar, Off-Sales most likely with two entrances to one of these partitioned areas possibly. Th…

@ChelseaDan5 The Rochester Castle was first recorded in 1721. Originally called the Green Dragon. Acquired in 1801 by Richard Payne of Rochester. Here’s the plan from the 60s when like every pub back then, the interior was subdivided and included a partitioned Public Bar and a S…

The Shakespeare in Allen Road is the oldest pub building in Stoke Newington, built in 1858. One of only a handful of local pubs that retain their original interior, mainly the central ‘island’ servery that served three partitioned areas: Public Bar, Saloon Bar and Luncheon Bar.

I’m all for restoring original pub partitions and recreating the original drinking areas (e.g. Private Bar, Saloon Bar) but these recent partitions in the White Hart (one has sash windows!) are so naff. Missed opportunity. (@EngineerLondon @planning4pubs @realnickperry)

The curved window of the Rose & Crown was originally a display window showcasing the brewery's bottles you could buy in the pub's off-licence section, where the main entrance is now. It's labelled as such (Show Case) in the plans from 1930. Here are two examples from other p…

@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon any idea why the Saloon Bar sign in the Shakespeare in Stoke Newington is facing inwards?? May have been like this since 1858, maybe a replica put facing inwards by mistake, or original put back at some point the wrong way around?

@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon Here’s the former Public Bar in the Rose and Crown with the same basic wooden panelling in the servery and along the walls. Very clear visual separation between the former Public and Private Bar sections.

The Crown pub in Islington, like the Shakespeare and Three Crowns pubs in Stoke Newington, has surviving signage to the former Saloon Bar section of the pub. Unlike the “spit and sawdust” Public Bar room next to it, the Saloon Bar was more lavish and slightly more expensive.

Love this glasswork and signage of the former Public Bar section of this pub in Bath. The Rose & Crown is the only pub in Stoke Newington with surviving ‘Public Bar’ signage. Every pub used to have one. It was the ‘spit and sawdust’ drinking room for the working class client…