1923 - Architectural drawings of the original Red Lion pub on Church St. It was rebuilt in 1924 when Lordhship Road was widened. Note the different areas the pub was split to: Saloon, private bar, public bar. (Source: London Metropolitan Archives. Ref:GLC/AR/DS/06/156).
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Two of the four original entrances to the Rose & Crown on Church St still have the signage, which marked two of the four separate sections of the interior: Private Bar, Public Bar, Saloon Bar and Lounge Dining Room.
Just noticed that the five doors of the Rose & Crown, which used to lead to separate areas are numbered from the inside: 1 - Private Bar (Number is missing) 2 - Public Bar (Number is missing) 3 - Outdoor Dept. 4 - Saloon Bar 5 - Lounge & Dining Room Any ideas why?
The former entrance to the Luncheon Bar, the Shakespeare pub, 57 Allen Road, Stoke Newington. A remnant of a time pubs were divided to different sections, each with its own separate entrance such as public bar, private bar and saloon bar.
@msemmajameson Not quite. Different seating options and pricing. The private bar and saloon were the posher ones. I believe food was served in the saloon lounge whereas the public bar was standing only drinking and cheaper.
@msemmajameson Also, I believe that unaccompanied women could drink in the Private Bar section. @VictorianLondon likely knows more.
“The traditional pub is essentially a multi-room establishment and one which involves a hierarchy of rooms.” From ‘The vanishing faces of the traditional pub’ breweryhistory.com/journal/archive/123/Pu… Stoke Newington pubs like the Rose & Crown still have the old signs outside such as Private…
“The traditional pub is essentially a multi-room establishment and one which involves a hierarchy of rooms.” From ‘The vanishing faces of the traditional pub’ breweryhistory.com/journal/archive/123/Pu… Stoke Newington pubs like the Rose & Crown still have the old signs outside such as Private Bar. https://t.co/eKJzWjXuod
The ‘Outdoor Department’ sign above the main entrance to the Rose & Crown used to be the entrance to a small closed section of the pub that served as an ‘off licence’ where people could buy beer in a jug or bottles to take home. x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
Interesting to see that the curved window in the ‘posh’ Private Bar section is labelled ‘Show case’. Does anyone know why? x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
1927 Plan of the Three Crowns pub (175 SN High Street), showing how it was originally divided into separate rooms with separate entrances. The Public Bar was slightly cheaper, standing only and served predominately men compared to the Private Bar and Saloon Lounge.
Plan of the original Red Lion pub on Church St (Note pre-1937 number), showing how it was divided into separate rooms with separate entrances. The Public Bar was slightly cheaper, standing only and served predominately men compared to the Private Bar and Saloon. Rebuilt in 1924.
@soxgnasher Interesting to see that a second entrance to a operate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right was removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was different, possibly oval and in the middle. Never considered it ti…
@soxgnasher Interesting to see that a second entrance to a operate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right was removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was different, possibly oval and in the middle. Never considered it till now.
Then & Now: The Coach and Horses. Interesting to see a second entrance to a separate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right. Removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was possibly different, maybe oval and in the middl…
Then & Now: The Coach and Horses. Interesting to see a second entrance to a separate room (Private or Public bar), which is seen on the right. Removed at some point when the pub became open plan. This means the bar location was possibly different, maybe oval and in the middle?
@DivineChoice Women rarely went into the Public Bar room of a pub. Private Bar or Saloon Lounge, not to mention that historically speaking, women wouldn’t go into a pub unaccompanied.
RT @DivineChoice: @HistoryOfStokey Yes the women in the programme went in pairs and were only allowed in the Saloon bar. They were not happ…
@LynRennick What do you mean by ‘separate bars’ Lyn? Was there any partition between them? Or were they simply located in different parts of the pub? If none of the above then what made them separate? I would imagine a Private Bar section of a pub to be just that :)
@LynRennick So if there were sectioned off what made them different exactly? Doesn’t sound like the private bar was very private :)
@LynRennick Also to clarify as I pointed out, he said it was ‘informal’ as in there were no signs but it was understood who drank in the Public Bar and who didn’t. Bar staff would hint if needed from what he described.
You can just about spot where the Shakespeare pub’s Luncheon Bar section partition would have been, when the pub was divided into separate areas (Saloon Bar, Public Bar and Luncheon Bar). Most likely frosted glass with staff working along the bar serving the different sections.
Apart from the frosted glass, the partition of the Shakespeare pub’s Saloon Bar section is pretty much still there.
The former entrance to the Rose & Crown’s “Outdoor Department” (note sign above the door), the pub’s ‘off licence’ section. It was originally a narrow corridor, leading to the bar allowing people to fill jugs or buy bottles to take home.
The Shakespeare pub in Allen Road/Shakspeare Walk (built 1858) in the early 1970s. Note the partition on the left when pubs were split into separate sections (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Lounge). The wooden frame of that partition is still there today.
Note there used to be two entrances: Public Bar and Private Bar. The bar was originally in the middle, serving both sections. x.com/soxgnasher/sta…
The Coach & Horses pub, 178 Stoke Newington High Street. Note that it originally had two entrances, as pubs were divided into different sections, not too dissimilar from modern gastro pubs: Public Bar on the left and Private Bar on the right.
@ivan_ruggeri Have a look. The entrance to the private bar was removed. The bar was originally oval and in the middle.
Old Saloon Bar mosaic at one of the entrances of the former Old Pitts Head, 230 Brick Lane. Only 3 Stoke Newington pubs have traces of the age when pubs where clearly divided into separate sections: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar. The 3 Crowns, The Shakespeare, Rose & C…
Old Saloon Bar mosaic at one of the entrances of the former Old Pitts Head, 230 Brick Lane. Only 3 Stoke Newington pubs have traces of the age when pubs where clearly divided into separate sections: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar. The 3 Crowns, The Shakespeare, Rose & Crown
@LynRennick Only 240 chracters per tweet :) was there signage for the Snug? have only ever seen ones for the Saloon/Lounge, Public and Private bar.
Note signs above the doors, each leading to a section of the pub, with internal partitions, typically wooden frame and frosted glass. Left to right m: Private Bar Public Bar Bottles and Jugs Saloon bar x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
The Three Crown is one of only three Stoke Newington pubs with surviving signage (Saloon lounge in this case) to what were partitioned areas: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon lounge, Outdoor dept./bottles & jugs. The other two are Rose & Crown and The Shakespeare.
The old Red Lion pub - Pulled down in 1924 and rebuitl as a result of widening of Lordship Rd - It was originally two separate houses - Note old street sign with pre-1917 N postcode - Note former numbering 114. It’s 132 today. - Note signage ‘Saloon Bar’ on the lamps https://t.c…
The old Red Lion pub
- Pulled down in 1924 and rebuitl as a result of widening of Lordship Rd
- It was originally two separate houses - Note old street sign with pre-1917 N postcode
- Note former numbering 114. It’s 132 today. - Note signage ‘Saloon Bar’ on the lamps x.com/soxgnasher/sta…
The former entrance to the Rose & Crown’s “Outdoor Department” (note sign above the door), the pub’s ‘off licence’ section. It was originally a narrow corridor, leading to the bar allowing people to fill jugs or buy bottles to take home.
@granduquevelez Pubs traditionally had an off-licence/Outdoor Dept. section.
@equestr Was it still divided to Public and Private Bar then?
You can see clearly on the left one of the partitions that divided the pub into separate sections, each with its own entrance: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar typically. Signs can be seen today still in the Rose & Crown, Three Crowns and the Shakespeare. https://t.co/5HL…
You can see clearly on the left one of the partitions that divided the pub into separate sections, each with its own entrance: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar typically. Signs can be seen today still in the Rose & Crown, Three Crowns and the Shakespeare. x.com/soxgnasher/sta…
@NelsonsNose One of only three pubs in Stoke Newington, along with the Rose and Crown and the Shakespeare, that have surviving writing/signage from the age when pubs were divided into partitioned sections (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Lounge, Outdoor Dept.)
@nickbrw This was the ‘posh’ Saloon Bar section of the pub then. You can still see the writing on the glass on the door leading to it today. The Public Bar area would likely have looked less like a restaurant. The areas were partitioned.
"The pivoted panes of glass were used by husbands or their wives, so that if one was in the Saloon Bar they could not see that their spouse was in another bar” Fascinating memories of growing up in The Shakespeare pub in the early 20th century here: drive.google.com/file/d/1L7FAUR… https…
"The pivoted panes of glass were used by husbands or their wives, so that if one was in the Saloon Bar they could not see that their spouse was in another bar” Fascinating memories of growing up in The Shakespeare pub in the early 20th century here: drive.google.com/file/d/1L7FAUR… https://t.co/Q7egicSzhk
1977 - The original Victorian interior of the Jolly Butchers, 204 Stoke Newington High St, when it was still divided into sections with separate entrances (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon), all served by a single U-shaped bar (Source: buff.ly/2xgytER) https://t.co/Cap5Ji…
1977 - The original Victorian interior of the Jolly Butchers, 204 Stoke Newington High St, when it was still divided into sections with separate entrances (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon), all served by a single U-shaped bar (Source: buff.ly/2xgytER) https://t.co/Cap5JiE5cV
Drinks were cheaper in the Public Bar section of a pub when pubs were divided into clearly marked sections with separate entrances. You could expect sawdust on the floor in the Public Bar section and less comfortable seating, if there was one. t.co/77CYaeJPSb
Great details in this photo of the old Red Lion: 1. Pre-1917 ’N’ postal district in the street sign 2. Lamps with the writing ‘Saloon Bar’ indicating it’s the entrance to the ‘posh’ section of the pub. 3. 114 - The old street number before the street was renumbred in 1937
@bobshaw72 This great one shows it with the separate entrances to the partitioned sections (Note the Saloon Bar sign)
Inside a Stokey pub in the 1970s: Roy Barrows kindly sent me these terrific photos from the 70s of the now-gone Howard Arms pub, which was at Howard Rd/Spencer Grove. Such interior photos are rare and fascinating. I love Ray’s comment about the Public Bar and Saloon Bar!
@chuffnell @ghostsigns Love the illustration of the class divide as captured by the separate entrances to the Saloon and Public Bar sections of the pub.
Ideal for social distancing? Pubs were originally divided into separate areas (Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon) with partitions and separate marked entrances. Here’s the Jolly Butchers in Stoke Newington High Street in the 70s, when it had its original U-shaped bar in the middle.
The Rose & Crown still has the number of each room, when it was divided. Numbering of individual rooms within a pub was standard practice for Customs & Excise control purposes until the 1960s. 1 Private Bar, 2 Public Bar, 3 Outdoor Dept, 4 Saloon Bar, 5 Lounge & Dini…
The Rose & Crown still has the number of each room, when it was divided. Numbering of individual rooms within a pub was standard practice for Customs & Excise control purposes until the 1960s. 1 Private Bar, 2 Public Bar, 3 Outdoor Dept, 4 Saloon Bar, 5 Lounge & Dining Room
The Rose & Crown also has the original signs outside to the Public Bar, Private Bar and Outdoor Dept. (Off-licence), which is rare to see these day. Other local pubs with surviving old signs to the former rooms are the Three Crowns and The Shakespeare. x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
The Coach and Horses, 178 Stoke Newington High Street with its two original entrances to the Public Bar and Private Bar rooms. The entrance on the right was removed at some point.
Beautiful Victorian mosaic in the Cellars pub in Newington Green Road, Islington in what was originally the entrance to the billiards and saloon bar room. A relic from an era when pubs were divided into partitioned areas, which had separate entrances (eg Public Bar, Private Bar)
I was chuffed to see the The Lamb & Flag pub in Covent Garden retained its old Public Bar sign. These are rare. Then I was thrilled to see it also had the old Saloon Bar sign! Imagine my reaction when I noticed both signs were made by a Stoke Newington sign maker! (@ghostsig…
I was chuffed to see the The Lamb & Flag pub in Covent Garden retained its old Public Bar sign. These are rare. Then I was thrilled to see it also had the old Saloon Bar sign! Imagine my reaction when I noticed both signs were made by a Stoke Newington sign maker! (@ghostsigns)
The Rose & Crown is one of only three pubs in Stoke Newington with surviving signs to the former partitioned sections of the pub. The Outdoor Department was the off licence and originally a narrow corridor leading to the servery. It’s now the main entrance to the pub.
The Weavers Arms pub opposite Abney Park Cemetery at 2 Stamford Hill/Cazenove Road. The pub closed many years ago and the ground floor has been used as a retail space since. It was an off-licence for a long time and later a second hand furniture shop. Women's clothing store now.
Ad for The Weavers Arms pub opposite Abney Park Cemetery at 2 Stamford Hill/Cazenove Rd. The pub closed many years ago and the ground floor has been a retail space since. It was an off-licence for a long time and later a second hand furniture shop. Women's clothing store now.
The Three Crowns is one of only three Stoke Newington pubs that have surviving signage to what used to be partitioned sections inside. Depending on size, a typical pub usually had a Saloon/Lounge, Private Bar, Public Bar, Off-Licence and Snug. Each with its own entrance and sign.
@Amy_Brewerton “The "snug" was a small private room or area which typically had access to the bar and a frosted glass window, set above head height. A higher price was paid for beer in the snug and nobody could look in and see the drinkers.” - I heard women typically used it.
@Amy_Brewerton As for the Public Bar section: “Public bars were seen as exclusive areas for only men; strictly enforced social etiquettes barred women from entering public bars (some pubs did not lift this rule until the 1980s)”
What’s now the entrance to the Rose & Crown pub, was originally the entrance to the pub’s off licence/Outdoor Dept. area. It was a narrow entrance with partition on each side leading to the bar where drinks could be purchased in bottles or jugs to take away.
This old photo of the Jolly Butchers shows the signs above the entrances to the different partitioned sections of the pub: Private Bar, Public Bar and Saloon Bar. A central U-shaped bar allowed the staff to serve all the sections. The original bar was removed a few years ago.
These great photos of the Jolly Butchers in 1977 show how the interior was divided into the Public Bar, Private Bar and Saloon Bar. Very few pubs in the area have retained their original central U-shaped bar. The Shakespeare is a great example of an original bar and pub layout.…
These great photos of the Jolly Butchers in 1977 show how the interior was divided into the Public Bar, Private Bar and Saloon Bar. Very few pubs in the area have retained their original central U-shaped bar. The Shakespeare is a great example of an original bar and pub layout. x.com/HistoryOfStoke… https://t.co/VcFsmepGgJ
The Princess Louise pub in Holborn still has the original partitions from when pubs were divided into separate areas (e.g. Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon, Snug). Plans for the Three Crowns (1927) and Rose & Crown (1931) show how these pubs were originally divided into secti…
The Princess Louise pub in Holborn still has the original partitions from when pubs were divided into separate areas (e.g. Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon, Snug). Plans for the Three Crowns (1927) and Rose & Crown (1931) show how these pubs were originally divided into sections
@jamesevans42 The Saloon Lounge in Three Crowns, entered from Church St. It was the ‘poshest’ section of a pub. Public Bar was working-class mainly with sawdust on the floor, so as far as I understand, the Private Bar was somewhere in the middle in the social hierarchy the inter…
@jamesevans42 The Saloon Lounge in Three Crowns, entered from Church St. It was the ‘poshest’ section of a pub. Public Bar was working-class mainly with sawdust on the floor, so as far as I understand, the Private Bar was somewhere in the middle in the social hierarchy the interior reflected
@LAnderson_Frank Yes. The pub interior reflected the strict social hierarchy of the time. Classes didn’t mix socially and also women wouldn’t use the Public Bar, usually the Snug.
@planning4pubs Thanks! Do you know if any other examples of original or restored pub partitions?
The Snug was a small section of a traditional pub where women could socialise without men. This is original from 1899 in Dick Mack’s in Ireland. Stoke Newington pubs were originally divided into different sections, but I’m not aware of any that had a Snug. Does anyone know?
@Huriye I suppose that a small pub whereas in a larger one the Snug would have been a partitioned section in the pub similar to the Public Bar and Private Bar (@planning4pubs)
@planning4pubs @Huriye Thanks! In that sense, was it different from the Private Bar section or simply a variation of the same concept?
A great view into what Stoke Newington pubs used to look like inside when they were partitioned: The Boleyn Tavern in E6 restored the pub’s Victorian features including the wooden screens with etched glass that divided the interior into separate sections like a Public Bar.
Pub interior partitions in the Prince Alfred in Maida Vale. Only 3 pubs in Stoke Newington (Rose & Crowns, Three Crowns, The Shakespeare) have some of the original signs at the entrances that used to lead to the sections of the pub, typically Private Bar, Public Bar and Salo…
Pub interior partitions in the Prince Alfred in Maida Vale. Only 3 pubs in Stoke Newington (Rose & Crowns, Three Crowns, The Shakespeare) have some of the original signs at the entrances that used to lead to the sections of the pub, typically Private Bar, Public Bar and Saloon
The Coach & Horses in the 1970s with its original two entrances: Saloon Bar on the left and likely Public Bar on the right. The original serving bar was U-shaped in the middle with a decorative partition separating the two section. The entrance on the right is now a window.
A partition in the John Snow pub in Soho with a small door for pot-boys to collect empty glasses. Every pub in Stoke Newington would have had similar timber and etched glass screens that divided the pub to 3 different rooms usually: Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar.
The Kings Arms in Waterloo has historic interior partitions dating back from when pubs were divided into rooms with separate entrances (Public Bar, Public Bar, Saloon Bar usually). Looks original. These would have been a feature of every pub in Stoke Newington back in the day.
Memories of the time when Stoke Newington pubs were partitioned: “Howard arms the Prince of Wales all did but Public Bar was loud and mainly men Saloon Bars women and couples back in,70s Ebor etc also seperate off licence entrance.” (Wendie Mitchell)
@planning4pubs @Schopflin @EngineerLondon @HeritagePubs Thanks. Were they only in the Saloon Bar/Parlour so the ‘higher class’ of customers would benefit from the added privacy, or were they also on the Public Bar giving privacy to people there as well?
The Shakespeare pub 100 years ago. Built in 1858 and still going strong. Jack Lazarus, the publican, and his son Arthur Lazarus (right). The interior photo is of the Saloon Bar section of the pub. (Courtesy of @graisgour, Arthur Lazarus’ granddaughter)
You can see on the counter Snob Screens, which comprised of an etched glass pane in a movable wooden frame and were intended to provide middle class drinkers in the Saloon Bar privacy from the staff and working class drinkers in the Public Bar on the other side of the bar. https…
You can see on the counter Snob Screens, which comprised of an etched glass pane in a movable wooden frame and were intended to provide middle class drinkers in the Saloon Bar privacy from the staff and working class drinkers in the Public Bar on the other side of the bar. x.com/HistoryOfStoke… https://t.co/Gba1VtViiz
My current fascination with historic pub interior took me on a 4hr round trip walk to the Prince Alfred in Maida Vale, which has original ornate partitions separating 5 drinking areas from a time when working men drank in the Public Bar and the middle class drank in the Saloon
The Prince Alfred also has surviving ornate Snob-Screens, which were at the luxurious Saloon Bar/Parlour section of a pub and intended to give privacy to the drinkers in that luxurious section of the pub and obscure them from the working class staff and drinkers in the Public Bar
Here’s a section about Snob-Screens in Ben Davis’ 1981 book “The Traditional English Pub”. It’s rare to see them today but they were common in pubs back in the day in the Saloon Bar section. This is the Crown in Islington. No surviving Snob-Screens in Stoke Newington pubs.
As Stoke Newington was predominantly Middle Class in the Victorian and Edwardian periods, those drinking in the Saloon Bar section of a local pub were likely drinking on occasions opposite their employees or domestic servants in the Public Bar, hence their need for privacy. http…
As Stoke Newington was predominantly Middle Class in the Victorian and Edwardian periods, those drinking in the Saloon Bar section of a local pub were likely drinking on occasions opposite their employees or domestic servants in the Public Bar, hence their need for privacy. x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
@StokeySye @planning4pubs @EngineerLondon @realnickperry Was the original bar horseshoe-shaped in the middle? I think I remember you described it as such a few years ago. Was the Public Bar door still there in 1989? Maybe even the screen between the Saloon Bar and Public Bar???…
@StokeySye @planning4pubs @EngineerLondon @realnickperry Was the original bar horseshoe-shaped in the middle? I think I remember you described it as such a few years ago. Was the Public Bar door still there in 1989? Maybe even the screen between the Saloon Bar and Public Bar??? :)
Spotted these infills in the bar of the Red Lion, which I suspect mark the spot of the old timber, and possibly etched glass, screens that divided the pub into different drinking areas such as Public Bar and Saloon Bar. Here’s a surviving example in the Prince Alfred, Maida Vale
@conundrum_112 Almost all the shops in Allen Road closed and converted to flats. Today there’s a cafe, bakery and an off licence. That’s it. Luckily the Shakespeare is still going strong.
What’s now the entrance to the Rose & Crown used to be the entrance to a narrow off-licence area of the pub, where people could buy bottles and get a jug filled with beer. “Outdoor Department”, as the off-licence was sometimes named, can still be seen above the door.
Back in the day when pubs were subdivided into drinking areas with separate entrances, some pubs had an off-licence section, sometimes named Outdoor Department, or in the case of this pub in Islington “Bottles & Jugs”. The areas inside were separated using timber screens.
@planning4pubs was the ‘Private Bar’ section for locals mainly? Trying to understand where it fitted in the social hierarchy alongside the Public and Saloon Bars. Thanks.
New geeky hobby: Trying to work out how a pub used to be subdivided into partitioned areas, usually Public Bar, Saloon Bar, Off-Licence and Private Bar. Decorative timber screens, sometimes with etched glass, partitioned the interior. This was done in the Red Lion in Church St
Great example of a pub partition in the King’s Head in Tooting Bec. Every Victorian pub in Stoke Newington had 2-3 subdividing the interior into different drinking areas such as Public Bar and Saloon Lounge. A central U-shaped servery allowed the staff to serve them easily.
This ‘takeaway’ partitioned section of a Victorian pub was also marked as Off-Sales, Off-Licence, Bottles & Jugs, Outdoor Department. The Rose & Crown is the only pub in Stoke Newington with a surviving sign for this section. An “Outdoor Dept.” sign above the main entran…
This ‘takeaway’ partitioned section of a Victorian pub was also marked as Off-Sales, Off-Licence, Bottles & Jugs, Outdoor Department. The Rose & Crown is the only pub in Stoke Newington with a surviving sign for this section. An “Outdoor Dept.” sign above the main entrance x.com/LondonStone/st…
@HowardKemp Any chance your friend remembers how the pub was originally divided into separate bars? It originally had 5 entrances (one is now a window) so Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar, Off-Sales most likely with two entrances to one of these partitioned areas possibly. Th…
@HowardKemp Any chance your friend remembers how the pub was originally divided into separate bars? It originally had 5 entrances (one is now a window) so Public Bar, Private Bar, Saloon Bar, Off-Sales most likely with two entrances to one of these partitioned areas possibly. Thanks.
@HowardKemp Thanks. Some pubs only had a Public Bar, Saloon Bar and Off-Sales. In that case I suspect in the Prince, the two bars had two entrances, which wasn’t uncommon.
@ChelseaDan5 The Rochester Castle was first recorded in 1721. Originally called the Green Dragon. Acquired in 1801 by Richard Payne of Rochester. Here’s the plan from the 60s when like every pub back then, the interior was subdivided and included a partitioned Public Bar and a S…
@ChelseaDan5 The Rochester Castle was first recorded in 1721. Originally called the Green Dragon. Acquired in 1801 by Richard Payne of Rochester. Here’s the plan from the 60s when like every pub back then, the interior was subdivided and included a partitioned Public Bar and a Saloon Bar.
The Shakespeare in Allen Road is the oldest pub building in Stoke Newington, built in 1858. One of only a handful of local pubs that retain their original interior, mainly the central ‘island’ servery that served three partitioned areas: Public Bar, Saloon Bar and Luncheon Bar.
I’m all for restoring original pub partitions and recreating the original drinking areas (e.g. Private Bar, Saloon Bar) but these recent partitions in the White Hart (one has sash windows!) are so naff. Missed opportunity. (@EngineerLondon @planning4pubs @realnickperry)
@BeefeaterDave @StokeyLitFest I was sent this amazing photos of the Howard Arms’ Public Bar in the 1970s in case you haven’t seem them x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
The curved window of the Rose & Crown was originally a display window showcasing the brewery's bottles you could buy in the pub's off-licence section, where the main entrance is now. It's labelled as such (Show Case) in the plans from 1930. Here are two examples from other p…
The curved window of the Rose & Crown was originally a display window showcasing the brewery's bottles you could buy in the pub's off-licence section, where the main entrance is now. It's labelled as such (Show Case) in the plans from 1930. Here are two examples from other pubs.
@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon any idea why the Saloon Bar sign in the Shakespeare in Stoke Newington is facing inwards?? May have been like this since 1858, maybe a replica put facing inwards by mistake, or original put back at some point the wrong way around?
@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon The simple dark brown wooden panelling on the right edge of the servery is consistent with the one used in the former Public Bar, whereas the rest of the pub has the more decorative pattern seen along the rest of the servery. Didn’t expect servery…
@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon The simple dark brown wooden panelling on the right edge of the servery is consistent with the one used in the former Public Bar, whereas the rest of the pub has the more decorative pattern seen along the rest of the servery. Didn’t expect servery panelling to change too!
@planning4pubs @EngineerLondon Here’s the former Public Bar in the Rose and Crown with the same basic wooden panelling in the servery and along the walls. Very clear visual separation between the former Public and Private Bar sections.
Glad to read that the Prince Alfred pub in Maida Vale, which has beautiful original pub partitions, has been upgraded to Grade II* from Grade II. Grade II* are "particularly important buildings of more than special interest". bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan… x.com/HistoryOfStoke…
The Crown pub in Islington, like the Shakespeare and Three Crowns pubs in Stoke Newington, has surviving signage to the former Saloon Bar section of the pub. Unlike the “spit and sawdust” Public Bar room next to it, the Saloon Bar was more lavish and slightly more expensive.
Love this glasswork and signage of the former Public Bar section of this pub in Bath. The Rose & Crown is the only pub in Stoke Newington with surviving ‘Public Bar’ signage. Every pub used to have one. It was the ‘spit and sawdust’ drinking room for the working class client…
Love this glasswork and signage of the former Public Bar section of this pub in Bath. The Rose & Crown is the only pub in Stoke Newington with surviving ‘Public Bar’ signage. Every pub used to have one. It was the ‘spit and sawdust’ drinking room for the working class clientele.